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I was in a hotel bar this evening.

A lady of about 60 who I had spotted wearing a black 3/4 mink swing jacket earlier,

approached me after about two hours when I went to the loo.

 

When I came out she was waiting for me; and asked me if she could "pinch" a cigarette. I obliged her, and lit it for her.

"mmmmm" she said.

Naturally I was aroused

She was wearing tight leather brown trousers, over knee black boots, and a "sweater dress" and low slung belt that the boys down below would have died for. She looked furtive as she smoked; clearly it was illicit for her in front of her friends. She was a part of a party of about 20 dull mostly younger people drabbly dressed and in non smoking. Blairites. She was a Very high class trendy bit of "victor"(mature!) with blonde shoulder length bob.

So I engaged her in conversation; mainly about the forthcoming smoking ban. She sent her eyes skyward. Here is what she said as far as I can remember:

"dont tell me about it. Its my husbands retirement do. they bought him a carriage clock. a f****** carriage clock. It is so not us. I dont want this. I want to smoke and dance and wear FURS like I used to.... I am so not wanting what is in store and I can't stand it"

She started to cry.

I held her for a few moments. Well why not we were hidden. She smiled; naughtily. So did I.

 

SOMETHING in our eye contact earlier had told her this was correct.

 

I asked her why she felt she had to accept what was given. She said:

"what I should grow old disgracefully?"

 

I told her she wasnt old, or disgraceful; and that I had noticed her from the moment she walked in. She was...is..stunning. I told her how lovely her balckgama mink was and she chirped up.

"It is blackglama; how do you know?"

 

I told her some people understand style and some dont. I told her that sadly the modern world doesnt.

"I dont want my daughters to go through this; already one is on the verge of divorce and the other is depressed in her final year at uni."

I could only guess at what she meant...she meant the glamour has gone out of life.

I told her she should guide her daughters and tell them there is another way. Her eyes lit up; she was part of a world moved on; one she didnt empathise with. Neither do I ; neither do her daughters.

 

I asked her what her husband wanted.

 

She laughed.

"right now a big cigar and a dance; not a meal with dull people who want to put us in the grave."

 

I walked to reception and asked them for the largest house cigar. It cost me £12.

Her yes lit up when I gave it to her; with a spare pack of marlboro lights.. She gripped my hand. I kissed her on the cheek; held her tight for a moment and I said. "Get him pissed and get him to shag you in the mink". Her eyes went even more bright.

 

 

"Are we allowed nowadays? she said.

 

ARE WE ALLOWED???????????Are We F****** allowed?????

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errrr...btw did I do wrong? Was I too flirtatious? Nothing happened; but we so wanted it to and maybe that was bad. I just felt...she too...a soul mate thing for a few moments. We didnt belong; except for that instant and I think it must have taken her some courage to approach me; though probably I letched a bit obviously when she arrived; mink swinging lol!

 

ps I also saw a long blue fox on a younger (30 ish) blonde today in the HIGH STREET!

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Frankly, ToS, I think you handled it remarkably well. Sure there was a little flirting going on, but certainly nothing over the top. Truth be told, I doubt many folks here could've handled the situation any better... most wouldn't have said a word to her... one or two others may have shagged her (or at least may have tried to) - much to her probable later regret.

 

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Thanks furlovin. Half of me says I should've; the other that I went too far as it was. Had to get it off my chest. I think I cheered her up and with a bit of luck they will have ditched their baggage and he will now be shagging her in the mink with a big cigar to share after!

 

I should have invited her here though shouldn't I?

 

Its like she led me into the converstion and sought approval that what she was into wasnt wrong.

 

We need calling cards.

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TOS,

 

You did a wonderful thing! Sometimes you can say to strangers what you would never dare say to those who know and love you. Isn't this forum a case in point?

 

Linda

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I think you handled that quite well touch. We do need calling cards though! She sounds very much like the classy woman we all would adore and want to talk to, so no worries on you going too far! Great story, thanks for sharing.

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Yes Linda thankyou. It seems like the world is turned upside down until you by chance meet someone that makes you realise it isnt you gone mad its the world.

I felt that we both bucked each other's confidence up; it was a lovely moment shared.

Just like sometimes when someone makes a post here and one thinks YES! Its okay to think/say that!

 

And yes miss T...nice to hear from you btw how are you? Yes this would have been the kind of lady that 20/30 years ago would have got us into all this; that appreciated elegance and glamour but in a fun way; I kept thinking she had a touch of Abba about her. And suddenly she is looking around her and thinks "omg wHAt the hell happened to our world?who took it away and why dont they want it now/"

The fur was aclearly a big statement about that for her. She got a dirty look (as did I from the 30 something hotel recptionist btw).

 

But yes it would have been great to hand her a card but I couldnt explain hardly why she should join a fur fetish forum could I?

But subtly expressed as a fur appreciation site (and THAT is why I joined because it didnt say fetish) it could be good.

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Also a similar incident happened (though sadly I was too slow!) on rtruning from switzerland recently.

I had spotted this French lady maybe 35 with a lovely fitted cashmere jacket and huge sheared phantom beaver cuffs (looked home made but lovely) that went to her elbow almost, at Basle airport. We exchanged a smile but I couldnt get near her on the plane. After baggage on arrival at luton I didnt see her until outside where I dashed to get a a long awaited smoke. I had large baggage so had to wait. So she is already outside, with an unlit cigarette.

Chance! So I approached, and lit it for her (I dont know what you non smokers use for chat up excuse lol!)

Just then, this young guy aproaches, offering her his lit cigarette, Seeing she was already lit, he tuurned to me and smiled.

"man I have been all over the airport for a light for this gorgeous lady".

 

He smiled but I had to admire his attempt, and listened; backing off. I watched him looking at and touching her soft cuffs green with envy lol!

Anyway he kept saying "are you sure he is coming? what will you do if he doesnt? do you want to stay with me? Here is my number if he doesnt show" etc.

I am pretty sure he was into the fur too...so if you are here own up! kudos to ya anyway!

Anyway eventually, after about 20 minutes the boyfriend showed up...older than me let alone the boy. He was maybe 20 at a push but some class and guts chatting up a very classy lady; and she too loved the attention...and probably got an go boost; she was very smiley the whole time.

 

I actually like it when my girlfriend gets male attention; I think its something that ladies who wear fur are always going to get; and possibly another reason for envy from other women. And also another reason why some men don't like their wives wearing fur.

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ToS,

 

You're about the same age as I am. Right? Maybe only a few years difference?

 

I get the impression that this lady just wanted to know that she's still "got it", if you know what I mean.

 

Of course, you are the gentleman and nothing more would have come out of the situation. Neither do I think she was looking for anything. But I am CONVINCED that she just needed to prove to herself that something could have happened if she wanted to.

 

Both of you got a little reassurance out of the encounter. I think that was the best possible outcome.

 

The only thing that could have happened better is that she took her husband upstairs to a room and... Umm... Celebrated his retirement!

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I think: Fur sightings/encouters like that are so fleeting. I had the same thing happen to me with mine, instead of "the husband" it was "the boyfriend" in the same vicinity. Yeah I had a great time chatting with her about her fur and about her. Maybe I made the mistake of asking if she was single? One of the questions I ask MySelf... Is "What if that could have been a beautiful friendship none-the-less??? If not more??? Had been pursued a little bit more?

 

Kyle

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ToS,

 

You're about the same age as I am. Right? Maybe only a few years difference?

 

I get the impression that this lady just wanted to know that she's still "got it", if you know what I mean.

 

Of course, you are the gentleman and nothing more would have come out of the situation. Neither do I think she was looking for anything. But I am CONVINCED that she just needed to prove to herself that something could have happened if she wanted to.

 

Both of you got a little reassurance out of the encounter. I think that was the best possible outcome.

 

The only thing that could have happened better is that she took her husband upstairs to a room and... Umm... Celebrated his retirement!

 

Yes worker I think you maybe right. BUT what is significant here is she wore the mink , which I expect would be reserved for special occassions, and expected the retirement party to be a fun affair. It wasn't; you only had to look at here husbands collagues to realise it couldn't be, even though some were only in their twenties. So she didnt get any kind of response from the others; in fact I heard a few bitchy remarks when some of those people were at the bar.

So obviously we made eye contact when she walked in and my eyes probably lit up. She smiled at me immediately. So I think she was "used" to that reaction when she wore her mink normally, and wasn't with the kind of people who'd app4reciate it. So she also wanted to know if her image was still acceptable, glamorous, exciting. I effectively told her it was, hence the later contact.

I did get a big smile and a thankyou wave form the old man late btw for th cigar, and I expect yes he would've given her a good seeing to later judging from the touching....that isn't normal in a long term relationship and it was on the cards.

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Yes worker I think you maybe right. BUT what is significant here is she wore the mink , which I expect would be reserved for special occassions, and expected the retirement party to be a fun affair.

 

That's what I meant when I said you got something out of it too; Reassurance that people STILL like to wear fur and have fun, even if they don't always admit it. Even when a cloud of stodginess pervades people's public behavior, there are still people who silently wish to go out and kick up their heels and have a little fun.

 

She got reassurance that she is still a desirable woman and that she could still go out to bars and pick up younger guys if she wanted to.

 

You got reassurance that the Borg hasn't completely taken over.

 

From that encounter, I think I'm pretty safe in assuming that she took her husband back to the hotel room and threw him down on the bed and had her way with him.

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What a nice thing to do,,,i'm sure you boosted her ego enormosly....at a time when she really needed it....I would bet she threw on her mink that night and thought about how nice she looked...only to be ignored by husbands coworkers........I hope her husband had the opportunity to only boost her ego even more later that night after the yuppies left....

Nice to make your heart smile once in awhile too..nice job!

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You know thinking about it; hotel and wine bars arent quite what they used to be either.

Ther is a hotel in Cardiff, a Marriott, which used to have the most fabulous interior. Marble pillars, floors and a huge square of marble with leather seating and a gas fire that looked real in the middle. Very very opulent, and I can remember welsh celebs, and perfume girls coming in and throwing their furs on a leather sofa or around the fire, grabbing a cocktail or champagne and the atmosphere was fabulous to be in. LOADS of furs. THEN about 10 years ago they changed it. I walked in and it was all gone. In its place, a very functional type surrounding, with more of a pub bar atmosphere.

I was incensed, and went to the recption to ask what had happened. The manager was there and he raised his eyebrow and said

"well its the view now that it was all too oppulent in peoples faces and they feel too insecure about relaxing."

 

But they hadn't reduced the drinks prices which is the only thing that sometimes stopped me from relaxing!

 

Anyway, apparently, as he told me, it is all still there. Cladded and covered up with faux wood effect. He told me that if society changed back to how it was then they would one day uncover it all was the plan. Can you believ that this stuff is all engineered and thought about like that?

 

Sad that oppulence and glamour, which could be shared by everyone really, is offensive to the drone culture. That is as much why furs have gone (in comparison to what it used to be) as any animal rights philosophy. In fact it is my considered opinion that the latter is the result of the mentality of envy.

We are in the age of the Halifax building society suit , and the Unison union. It isn't the working class; traditionally they need glamour for escapism; and if the get money they want furs (Britney Spears for eg). But for the most part we get the dowdy celebs that reflect "normality": the Jade Goodies, the Jeremy Kyles and the Kurt Cobains, the Ricky Lakes and the Paul Mccartneys and the Cherie Blairs. Thing is they are often still obscenely rich...they just dont look it.

The oppulent glam celebs...the Donatatella Versaces and the Joan Collins and the Lara flynn Boyles and the Anna Kournikovas are often frowned on.

 

Everything truly is, in the words of the Kaiser Chiefs, average nowadays. Architecture, Art, Music, TV films...its all lowest common denominator stuff. Mediocrity rules. Thats the problem with a meritocracy....if you allow it to really happen, then thiose left at the bottom of the pile really are crap. SO instead of meritocarcy we have drone culture; where the only chance of success is not skill talent or genius, but rather, the lottery win or reality tv show. Meanwhile, the corridors of power engineer society and control through sly corruption, and the socialist gravy train. Thing is you cant see Jack Straw who wears crap suits was once against multiple property ownership with his multi million property empire; but they get rid of Prescott cos he has two Jags and a tarty wife.

AND LOOKOUT ANYONE WHO THINKS THEY ARE BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE BY WEARING FUR OR OTHER STATUS SYMBOLS.

 

The language of status is now much more subtle; and furs are considered

"vulgar". A trainers wife for example had recently considered buying a fur, but then decided not to because she was nervous of "upstaging" her owners wives. The flamboyant owners are becoming fewer. Owning a racehorse in these times is also considered vulgar it seems. Duran Duran for example used to have racehorses; but few bands these days would consider it in case it alienated their fan base.

 

Likewise, The drone people at the bar the other night said something like

"I don't know who she thinks she is" and " mutton dressed as lamb" about the lady in the mink.

 

They weren't against the way she looked because of the dead animal ....but because she was glamorous and got attention from other men.

One thing is I think I have given her the confidence to keep right on with her style and enjoy herself. I hope her husband appreciates her.

 

Anyway, on the bright side the Tories are 14 points ahead in the polls so the days of Blairsville are within sight of an end.

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Sad that oppulence and glamour, which could be shared by everyone really, is offensive to the drone culture. That is as much why furs have gone (in comparison to what it used to be) as any animal rights philosophy. In fact it is my considered opinion that the latter is the result of the mentality of envy . . . The oppulent glam celebs...the Donatatella Versaces and the Joan Collins and the Lara flynn Boyles and the Anna Kournikovas are often frowned on . . . Everything truly is, in the words of the Kaiser Chiefs, average nowadays . . . Architecture, Art, Music, TV films...its all lowest common denominator stuff. Mediocrity rules . . . Thats the problem with a meritocracy....if you allow it to really happen, then thiose left at the bottom of the pile really are crap. SO instead of meritocarcy we have drone culture; where the only chance of success is not skill talent or genius, but rather, the lottery win or reality tv show. Meanwhile, the corridors of power engineer society and control through sly corruption, and the socialist gravy train.

 

Said like a true Capitalist, ToS! Yes, you are correct - without the liberty to excel, and without the reward of success, mankind is condemned to mediocrity. That is why Socialism, like Facism and Communism, is a failed system. And under the constraints of a system which blurs class and eliminates glamour, as you have so poignantly described, more and more drones will be spawned, and the disdain for things such as fur will only increase.

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A great speech frbrgr and I agree with 90% of it. As you know I am a Libertarian. Howver, the one problem I have is the Dandelion and Burdock aspect of capitalism that I don't like. Buy out the competition...especially if it is better (in that case than Cola)....or crush the better product either because you have better advertising or a cheaper mass produced product.

That way capitalism ends up the same as socialism...with no choice, and poor product and consumer deal.

 

In the UK every high street is now a clone of the next with small business crushed by global businesses....often ones doing dodgy deals with socialist councils.

 

So the aspiration of the capitalism should be more than money itself. It should be greatness itself. Truly beautiful, worthy or quality product.

The way it works at the moment with having to return a profit to shareholders every year means often "never mind the quality feel the width" ethos taking hold.

 

I don't know how to address hat problem either; you can't legislate for it. the only solution is better education and more questioning media....but a society that wants drones to consume aren't going to do that; especially when they are hand in hand with socialists.

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I would love to run into more refined women wearing their furs here in dayton, but it is so rare! There is one grocery store I frequent that is a bit upscale, and that is where I have spotted a few women in full length furs this year. But no ladies like what touch encounters! The ladies here are in their 60's and older easily and are terribly timid - but fun to see out in their furs nonetheless. I always make a point of saying how nice they look, just to see their eyes light up at least. I'd love to see a woman in furs to flirt with, I'm jealous!

 

Thanks all for the avatar comments! And yes, meant to be naughty as they are from a shoot for my dom ads.

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