Ravens8 Posted January 25, 2007 Share Posted January 25, 2007 (Don't worry Mods (and anyone else who cant be bothered to read this) - just go to point 4 at the bottom!!) I take your points entirely ToS, but these are politico/economic arguments. We have in fact gone way beyond that into biological imperatives. Vis there are too many individuals of the species Homo sapiens, consuming too many of the world resources. Period. ALL the planetry problems we have at the moment would disappear completely if population numbers were brought down to levels that are able to maintain sustainable balance with the renewable resources of the planet. Yes I agree, economically it makes huge sense for immigration to add to the wealth of the country, and as the situation stands now, I welcome immigrants with open arms. Most of them do a great job, work really hard and by doing so generate respect as well as there own self respect. Something sadly lacking in a lot of Brits for the reasons you quoted. BUT Biologically this country (and many other developed countries) are already unsustainable as self supporting nations. If all imports were stopped tomorrow, many people would soon starve in the UK. We have our wealth only by having a global footprint equivelent to four Great Britains worldwide. That means that for our wealth to continue we are parasitic on other countries, many of which are struggling to become developed. And this can only get worse unless population reduces. It has nothing to do with cutting energy emissions and all the othe gobblygoop that's forced down us. It's simply a matter of rspecting that the planet can only support an optimum population of any species. The writing was on the wall this summer, but how many heeded it. There was NEVER a drought here in the South. A water shortage, yes, because too many people were using a resource that is finite. But a lack of water? - no in the next hundred years the poulation of UK needs to reduce from 60m to 30m. It could be done painlessly with the right Guidance and encouragement from the right government. Biologically it wont happen. It is a biological imperative to strive towards comfortable living in order to reproduce and propogate the species. The biological web of the planet however has very capable measures built into it to control out of control growth of a species. It can be seen happening all the time throughout evolution. We may run around doing this, doing that to firefight situations, but we are ultimately controlled by our own biological imperative. If it were any different from this we would not even be here now. We HAVE to conform to the dictates of the web of life in order to live. Simple. Just four more brief points. 1. It's really worth spending some time here http://www.optimumpopulation.org/ 2. We've only got a few decades of life. The planet is miraculous and wonderfull - just stop fighting things and enjoy it for christ's sake, we wont get another chance. 3. I'm not for one moment advocating genocide to reduce population numbers. That is the way of evil and madness. But populations can be changed over just a few generations by very natural means. (But because we are goverened by policies that only last at most one generation, this is unlikely to happen) 4. I'm a very slow typer. so I wont be writing an essay like this again on the Den (It wastes too much of my life time which I could be enjoying in other ways). So you Mods, you can all breathe a sigh of relief, smile, and enjoy a glass of wine in the knowledge that Ravens has finished ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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