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Didn't Green Day get pretty good reviews from various music mags/sites? It seems the bands you dislike are those which have received a certain amount of popularity.

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ToS, you should take a crash course in blended socialisation of multiple preferences in different categories Try phrases like "I feel, I think, In my opinion" instead of "It is.".

 

Taste is like an ass you know.. It's cracked down the middle with a darkzone in between

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ToS, you should take a crash course in blended socialisation of multiple preferences in different categories Try phrases like "I feel, I think, In my opinion" instead of "It is.".

 

Taste is like an ass you know.. It's cracked down the middle with a darkzone in between

 

 

QUALITY!!!

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Nice one E!

 

Let me tell you ToS, I am not going to contribute to or be involved in some huge childish war, or whatever is going on here... but I do feel the need to say a few things. I don't care for Bono myself, but Fox's Girlfriend WOULD put him out, because I am a civilized, compassionate human being. Bono is not U2. Bono is Bono. It's grown on me.

And as for all the jibberish of "our" music not being art because it isn't punk..... I think punk groups do more "cover" songs then any other genre of music!!!!! So how is that art? ....That's copying! Listen to Green Day's "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" sometime, and tell me how that isn't art. Billy wrote that. And as for "us Americans" not knowing squat about music, that should make you doublely like Green Day, considering they have "American Idiot". Billy wrote that too.

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Art is a broad term I believe and I'm pretty sure what one sees as art differs from person to person. I know it's just your opinion (although I'm not sure you made that clear) but you have to realise other people interpret music and other forms of art in different ways, and have different tastes as mentioned before.

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That's my point. It is MY opinion, as you have yours and he has his, and the next person will have theirs. I just thought all that "ranting" was unnecessary. Just because you, he or I may not think it's "art", to tell someone they are wrong for the type of music they like is ridiculous. Especially Fox!!! He is the most open-minded, willing-to-try-anything-once kind of person, that I have ever known. Please don't insult people based on the type of music they listen to.

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There should be a testosterone alert on this thread. Someone hose them down with something soothing.

 

And not a single mention of Corelli, Purcel, Billie Holiday or Julie London, or even Siouxie and the Banshees.

 

Don't you guys listen to music??

 

 

Tryxie

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SLADE,Big Country,Simple Minds, The Jam, The Style Council,Gary Moore,W.A.S.P,Girlschool,Motorhead, The Alarm, ABC,Spandau Ballet ,Dr.Feelgood(The Blues Rock band not crue),&The Who & Johnny Thunders .

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There should be a testosterone alert on this thread. Someone hose them down with something soothing.

 

And not a single mention of Corelli, Purcel, Billie Holiday or Julie London, or even Siouxie and the Banshees.

 

Don't you guys listen to music??

 

 

Tryxie

 

Point taken, Tryxie!!

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Thank you Unclejoe and OFF.

 

There's nothing dead about classical music, apart from the composers that is. Bach played a mean chello, and that Mozart dude was always up for a good tune.

 

Tryxie

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Hmm, music...

 

Well.

 

I'm into various types of Metal (Power, Thrash, Heavy, Melodic, Folk), Classical, Jazz, Drum and Bass, and a bit of Techno.

 

It's kinda down to what I like the sound of. I use usually listen to music that suits my mood, but I guess that counts for most people.

 

Oh and I kinda despise music in the same vein of what T.o.S mentioned earlier, but I shall keep to myself. ToS, said enough as it is.

 

Oh and 'Emo'. /puke

 

 

~Ulti

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I love bands like Black Sabbath,Metallica,AC/DC,Machinehead,Motorhead, Faith No More,Garbage,Soundgarden,GNR,Pearl Jam and millions more but you got to love the classical stuff too! Bach,Strauss and Vivaldi is like metal without amplifiers.And i highly recommend Apocalyptica,4 guys with cello's that cover modern music like Metallica etc.

 

 

 

PS.CCR Rock

PPS.Almost as much as the Beasti Boys

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Yes I do like to get a rise out of people to get the discussion going!!!

Please dont take offence; its just me.

 

Punk was a movement which can be seen as a cultural phenomena which incorporated Art, fashion, philosophy, and mucis was just part of it.

 

Green day are a commercial pop band, as are U2 (capitalising to the tune of miiloins on a general wooly minded petit bourgeois sensibility) .There is a huge difference.

 

Punk was a manifestation of belief that music was more about feeling, energy, mood and yes testosterone...than how it was played or what was being said. It was utterly without pretention or commercial viability. It was alive and as important as rock and roll, jazz, country, or even Art movements like Dadaism and surrealism (aspects of which were incorporated in tghe bricolage fashions). It brought music back in line with Primal origins.

 

Green day and U2 cannot be mentioned in the same breath. They in my humble opinion, are dross. the fact that they THINK they are something high brow makes it even more pretentious, untrustworthy and profoundly dishonest.

Bono protests against globalisation....he IS globalisation.

 

Green day are a third rate fifth wave punk band and would never survive if they had begun in the UK. They'd have been laughed off stage.

I am not anti American on this....just that bands like The Causey Way do it loads better; and the Dead Kennedys were a thousand times more sophisticated.

 

I also applaud the interest in classical music, and other forms as I said.

But the vast majority of pop is just crap. I will even enjoy it sometimes....

but know what it is. Some transcends though.

 

I did mention Siouxsie Tryxie!!!

 

I also love Julie London...again Cry me A river is beautiful and full of feeling; it can be objectively defended, whereas Green Day is a lot of ugly ill put together crude but sanitised purile anst. As Nirvana.

Chip on your shoulder music for spoilt petit bourgeois youth. Commercial in conception and execution. For a generation without culture because pop manifacturers doent want them to have any(so there is fashionable spurning of whats gone before) because then they can be manipulated as a marketing group. Its lowest common denominator stuff.

 

Love your music tastes too Beautifulfurs; cant knock much of that.

And utterly respect yours OFF, and Cling too. And Ulti etc. they are all sincere and have integrity above commercialism.

 

 

If you think music is subjective and everyones opinion is of equal worth, are you suggesting that S Club 7 are on a par with Mozart??????!!!!!!!!

 

Simple can be beautiful though, and sweet and gentle can be art too.

 

"On white horses snowy white horses....let...me...ride...a...way......"

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Just do me one favour beautifulfurs. The style council in the middle of that excellent music selection is like a weed in a bed of flowers.

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Granted, a lot of bands nowadays seem to be going for the poppy-punk thing - even Green Day to a certain extent (even getting a fourth member). I tend to prefer a lot of their older stuff - from the album "Dookie" and backwards. Admittedly, have yet to hear any of their pre-Green Day music, from when they used to be called Sweet Children..

 

Green Day are not my fave punk band, however. I got two words..

 

BLACK FLAG!! (first band i ever played on my local radio show - "TV Party")

 

Unclejoe

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Black Flag....saw them live christmas on earth Leeds about 1981.

 

Yeaah they were good. The Dickies on the same bill....excellent.

 

By the way, can I change the issue here little....anybody play on the forum?

 

Maybe we could get a pro fur band together!!!!!

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Nirvana cited punk as a key influence on their music, though they never referred to their own work as punk; their music was equally akin to other forms of garage- or indie-rock that had existed for decades. I would still like to know why you hate REM..

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Because I dont like their pro PETA half witted politically correct part boiled pseudo intellectual hang ups that they can sell because caring sells.

 

And as for man not walking on the moon, and that stupid cow out of the B52s who caused more damage to the ozone layer(allegedly) with cans of hair spray in the early 80s than the whole of the industrial revolution did....well |I rest my case.

 

Its for 10 year olds. Simple minds who "care".

 

And Nirvana clearly didnt understand punk whatsoever. It was upbeat not whingey. Morrissey is another who failed to comprehend it....another dangerous evil idiot.

 

VERY VERY DANGEROUS

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You might disagree with the messages conveyed in certain tracks by certain artists, but lyrics aren't everything in a song. Do you dislike the sound of REM as much as you do the political messages which are conveyed in some of their songs?

 

EDIT: Nirvana was an offshoot of punk and alternative rock, they weren't trying to mirror the sounds which had influenced them

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Morissey Nirvana and REM aswell as other notable whingers like the Stereophonics mirror the I want it on a plate generation and their miserable about nothing cos they are so f***ing spoiled lifestyles. Travis, Oasis,Ocean colour Scene etc etc.

 

So yes, its not just the lyrics but the sound.

 

Panic on the streets of London, Dublin Dundee humberside....."

yeah right.

I remeber when he played our college and demanded

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