minkme Posted May 8 Posted May 8 Anybody looking for that double sided fox coat? I found this on eBay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/197298050009?_trksid=p3959035.c101878.m1851&itmprp=cksum%3A197298050009c36db3d95a6441509f3bef5247f425d9|enc%3AAQAKAAABMGChu656ykHRePvYH5iQnKrza%2Fg1yJbHvL%2FXlmEEr1aUFhnU343hvgeTSoKspGsdb3P22K0DLQ4hXfPINdySCpEBZCIYbM1OmKHK%2Ff6sOSpEKpD3vtDY9XhDc7xIzxL2ECREWsfLZcK3z4tyxw7pOb8%2FC6z1kYQRydpzeW7ORA%2FAa2kAlzqWVll83tNsZQENxEm%2BtISOTx0muT1HEuuDcN0Fa0xuQEZQzqrb18xGwgNdDXjXYH4E%2BVzMrNKzapvhdwg%2B7RNfdWpDhN96QKwWAIu%2B%2BFm4g7TZimDVjAbvKor5iXWGgU6n5%2BaWZpi0kM9hNLrprDOtmoSvX3g9I2dOpnvPTvdlapGBaVXGmWKFG4MTZRzXyODptgcDaSkhhsVnAXnWc4ROlmgF%2BWjGmbCEvzc%3D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A3959035&itmmeta=01JTRQKK3KVD8N3AM987XMB7VP 1
Chrisfurlover Posted May 9 Posted May 9 18 hours ago, minkme said: Anybody looking for that double sided fox coat? I found this on eBay. https://www.ebay.com/itm/197298050009?_trksid=p3959035.c101878.m1851&itmprp=cksum%3A197298050009c36db3d95a6441509f3bef5247f425d9|enc%3AAQAKAAABMGChu656ykHRePvYH5iQnKrza%2Fg1yJbHvL%2FXlmEEr1aUFhnU343hvgeTSoKspGsdb3P22K0DLQ4hXfPINdySCpEBZCIYbM1OmKHK%2Ff6sOSpEKpD3vtDY9XhDc7xIzxL2ECREWsfLZcK3z4tyxw7pOb8%2FC6z1kYQRydpzeW7ORA%2FAa2kAlzqWVll83tNsZQENxEm%2BtISOTx0muT1HEuuDcN0Fa0xuQEZQzqrb18xGwgNdDXjXYH4E%2BVzMrNKzapvhdwg%2B7RNfdWpDhN96QKwWAIu%2B%2BFm4g7TZimDVjAbvKor5iXWGgU6n5%2BaWZpi0kM9hNLrprDOtmoSvX3g9I2dOpnvPTvdlapGBaVXGmWKFG4MTZRzXyODptgcDaSkhhsVnAXnWc4ROlmgF%2BWjGmbCEvzc%3D|ampid%3APL_CLK|clp%3A3959035&itmmeta=01JTRQKK3KVD8N3AM987XMB7VP I would check the source. It appears to be samaras furs. Could be a scam or another furrier using their pics for advertising.
pnwhist Posted May 9 Posted May 9 We do need to extract that video of the lady modeling the coat. This is a coat of many lifetimes… oh my.
Fox Posted May 10 Posted May 10 The eBay link is definitely a scam. The coat is cheaper on the original furriers site. https://samarasfurs.com/product/tina-luxury-double-sided-full-length-blue-fox-fur-coat-with-lavish-huge-hood-fur-belt/
pnwhist Posted May 10 Posted May 10 8 hours ago, Fox said: The eBay link is definitely a scam. The coat is cheaper on the original furriers site. https://samarasfurs.com/product/tina-luxury-double-sided-full-length-blue-fox-fur-coat-with-lavish-huge-hood-fur-belt/ Then buy it on their site then… eBay’s intended audience has the understanding that it’s fundamentally an auction site. The prices go up not down.
Kidnapped Posted May 10 Posted May 10 (edited) I can't say for sure, whether or not the ebay-entry is original by Samaras or not. What I can say is that Samaras is known to re-sell furs created by furriers from Easter-Europe. Here is an example: https://samarasfurs.com/product/londyn-luxury-double-side-scandinavian-white-fox-fur-costume-with-fur-mittens-fur-boots/ shows an amazing double sided fox overall - and if you scroll down, Samaras says that is is "Made in Greece", where Samaras is located. However, the suit is actually made by furrier Pracownia Kuśnierska in Poland. You can find the overall on their Instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/CuJzqdGxGLN/ Maybe Samaras is a certified reseller for Kuśnierska. I really have no idea how they cooperate. However I find it a bit fishy that Samaras "relables" the land of origin to Greece. What I can say is that I have commissioned a few pieces from Kuśnierska and have been very happy with the result. Very good contact by Instagram messages, fast delivery, and they were willing to hear about my "special wishes. Also, ordering directly from them is definitely cheaper than what Samaras says. Edited May 10 by Kidnapped
gai Posted May 18 Posted May 18 (edited) I think similar to a lot of sellers and stores, they just take pictures from other sellers and repost it to show what they can make. So while it's not honest in that they didn't make that exact fur and had it modeled and did the photoshoot themselves, usually they can recreate it and are legit. An example is Sobolini Furs on Instagram. They do amazing work themselves, but sometimes I've seen them repost other people's work Edited May 18 by gai
Kidnapped Posted May 18 Posted May 18 1 hour ago, gai said: So while it's not honest in that they didn't make that exact fur and had it modeled and did the photoshoot themselves, usually they can recreate it and are legit. It's funny how you use not honest and legit in the same sentence. Naw, a good furrier who is proud of their work has enough original photos to advertise their work.
Panther10 Posted May 26 Posted May 26 On 5/18/2025 at 12:54 AM, Kidnapped said: It's funny how you use not honest and legit in the same sentence. Naw, a good furrier who is proud of their work has enough original photos to advertise their work. I think you’re conflating the two examples. Yes a furrier might be totally capable of producing good work but that doesn’t mean that have an available sample model of the coat they are advertising to show you on hand. This photo might have been procured from a secondary source, (and it’s certainly unscrupulous for them to be stealing images certainly) but if that shop is looking to fulfill the promise of an oversized, hooded golden island fox coat for example and they don’t have one to showcase because they don’t have any skins in stock at the moment but they have some on order. Then at the very least a sample image might provide their customers with some small peace of mind that this store can make a coat that looks exactly like the image provided. It’s not the best way to guarantee business but it does probably provide some level of confidence to the average customer who more than likely isn’t as familiar with the myriad of different sellers and stores out there who sells furs out there and are just walk in clients. Not everyone is a hobbyist. In fact if I were one of those average clients and I were perusing around a website for the first time, I would take greater offense to stores who advertise their coats on mannequin dummies instead of actual people. Or those websites that provide fake testimonials and advertise their products against a backdrop of photoshopped backgrounds rather than in real settings. Now that is really duplicitous behavior.
Efferus33 Posted Monday at 09:41 AM Posted Monday at 09:41 AM 9 hours ago, Panther10 said: I would take greater offense to stores who advertise their coats on mannequin dummies instead of actual people. I tend to find mannequin with faces really weird. It’s even scary sometimes. That being said I’m curious, what don’t you like about mannequins dummies?
LeComte Posted Monday at 01:49 PM Posted Monday at 01:49 PM Samaras has a reseller program https://samarasfurs.com/become-a-reseller/ And they list some partners https://samarasfurs.com/partners/
Kidnapped Posted Monday at 03:47 PM Posted Monday at 03:47 PM (edited) 15 hours ago, Panther10 said: ... but if (lengthy hypothetical scenario here) Look - in the case we are discussing here we have the choice between a (more expensive) promiser and the actual furrier who has created quite a few of these suits in different furs and has the photos to proof it and we even have some members here in the community who own such a suit. I mean... you do you. The mannequin bugs you and turns the offer of the original furrier into a deal-breaker? Then go to the promiser (who, by the way, uses the very same photos with mannequin). But I know who deserves my business and where I'd order. And I am honestly surprise how anybody would spend so much effort in defending fishy advertisement practices. Would it be so bad to commission from the original furrier? Edited Monday at 03:55 PM by Kidnapped
Panther10 Posted Tuesday at 01:33 PM Posted Tuesday at 01:33 PM On 5/26/2025 at 4:41 AM, Efferus33 said: I tend to find mannequin with faces really weird. It’s even scary sometimes. That being said I’m curious, what don’t you like about mannequins dummies? I find mannequins to be a manipulative tactic because they are sculpted in a to show people in their most ideal physique and thusly I feel like that hurts a business when you are advertising furs in different sizes or varying lengths. It is totally fine if you are marketing a fur coat that is a size 2-4 on a mannequin because that is the ideal range that this particular coat size was meant to be modeled for. But once you get into any size range over a 12 I feel like you start to lose your customer base a little bit and it skews their perception of how big the garment actually is since the dummy wasn’t constructed to be a one size fits all host. And this is even further skewed once you start going into the very large plus sizes of 3XL or larger. Because by then the dummy is pretty much obsolete and you might as well just bring an actual big and tall model. Now that’s not to say I have anything against furs that are purposefully designed to look oversized. Samara and Velur Boutique for example will frequently make large looking coats even in petite models just because they use full pelts for their designs so it gives the coat an oversized quality even if it’s not big on the inside. So I know there is a distinction between the two. But that is a far cry from furriers and boutiques using a mannequin who has less in common with an actual person’s body type and proportions than a real human being who can model the fur for you and give you an idea of what this fur looks like in person
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