First time in furriers?

[kev86]

4 hours ago, WinnipegFur said:

I personally think that whole the hooks do up this or that way doesnt mean a thing.. I was wearing my mom's raccoon coat when the woman in the park complimented me on it..she didnt even realize I was wearing a woman's fur coat until I told her it was my moms.. she didnt care at all, all I remember her saying was it looks great, wear it, and who cares what anyone says...

Way back when I first started venturing out in raccoon or coyote coats, like in the early 90s, for me the way the hooks did up was intimidating.. the young guy seen wearing the ladies fur coat and hat was a bit daunting, and I always remember trying to take the most secretive path and was scared to cross paths with anyone while go for morning walks. Id often make quick turns back the other direction just to not cross paths with anyone... When I look back on it now, I just think of all the times I should have been wearing a fur coat, vs being to scared... now its who cares... going out for walks in raccoon, coyote, lynx, red fox, silver fox, beaver, mink is just normal now... it helps when you live in a freezer too here in Winnipeg... lol

Great reply !!!

Surely when you are young, we are afraid about the reaction of people's but with the time we become adult, we don't give importance about people's reactions and people's opinions...

Surely, this lady is really gentle and supportive of fur, always great to see these people's reactions.

I'm totally agree with you, during the winter season and cold weather, the fur is a necessity for me, I don't imagine walking on the street without my fur coat and leather gloves !!!

I don't care about people thinking, if people don't appreciate to see me wearing animals pelts, honestly this is not my problem... I love fur so much and I wear it everyday during the winter season and autumn, when the wind is very cold and brutal !!! I'm proud of wearing animals and a massive number if we see my collection haha...

[WinnipegFur]

18 hours ago, kev86 said:

Great reply !!!

Surely when you are young, we are afraid about the reaction of people's but with the time we become adult, we don't give importance about people's reactions and people's opinions...

Surely, this lady is really gentle and supportive of fur, always great to see these people's reactions.

I'm totally agree with you, during the winter season and cold weather, the fur is a necessity for me, I don't imagine walking on the street without my fur coat and leather gloves !!!

I don't care about people thinking, if people don't appreciate to see me wearing animals pelts, honestly this is not my problem... I love fur so much and I wear it everyday during the winter season and autumn, when the wind is very cold and brutal !!! I'm proud of wearing animals and a massive number if we see my collection haha...

I often look back and think about the older woman in the park where I still go for walks.. she was always wearing a red fox jacket and hat... I was always wearing a full length coyote or raccoon.. We never directly crossed paths, but always looked at each other from a distance.. I always knew where she parked, but was too intimidated being a young guy that someone would say something to park beside her.. I often think about what the conversation would have been.... will never know...

Same when my mom wanted to go downtown and I was the one driving... why didnt I just wrap up in the raccoon and go on inside...  

[kev86]

5 hours ago, WinnipegFur said:

I often look back and think about the older woman in the park where I still go for walks.. she was always wearing a red fox jacket and hat... I was always wearing a full length coyote or raccoon.. We never directly crossed paths, but always looked at each other from a distance.. I always knew where she parked, but was too intimidated being a young guy that someone would say something to park beside her.. I often think about what the conversation would have been.... will never know...

Same when my mom wanted to go downtown and I was the one driving... why didnt I just wrap up in the raccoon and go on inside...  

I understand you are nostalgic about this period but when we are a young boy, this is often difficult to go talking with her... Surely this older lady was adorable and supportive of fur if she was wrapped red fox !!!

Now seeing the future, maybe one day you meet a other fur lady... I think older ladies wear fur during a hard winter !!!

Edited May 20 by kev86

[Efferus33]

I agree with you, it’s a good idea to try or wear women coats. Actually I suspect some furriers to use lesser quality fur to make men’s coats. Some look really bad.

Someone talked earlier about directly saying to the furrier you’re okay to try women coats. I mean, that’s seems like a good advice and sometimes you won’t have a choice as there won’t be anything else to try!

We had a mink from my grandma. She was as big as me so it used to fit me perfectly and my family agreed. I would say especially vintage full length minks or fox looked good on men. More recent minks and furs look much more feminine in my opinion.

Fur being so rare on men, I think it’s normal that we need time to fully feel free. In a way, it’s part of the fun. I find it cute how uncomfortable I felt the first time I entered a furrier.

[Panther10]

Off the rack furs when it’s comes to men’s coats aren’t that great looking. For a real high quality garment you have to get something custom made. And don’t fool yourself into thinking that a women’s coat is the answer because the fit won’t be correct on your frame. The shoulders, the sleeve length, the measurements across the underarms and back will all be more tapered and purposefully cut in ways that you don’t even realize and it’s because they are meant to fit a woman’s body and not a man’s. And if you wear a women’s fur and you accidentally cause any of the seams to stretch or pull in some of those more delicate areas, rips and tears can form all over the place. If you really want to buy a fur that’s worth your investment, talk to your furrier about buying a custom made garment. It will be tailored to exactly your needs and you won’t run into any issues in the long run 

[Efferus33]

On 5/21/2025 at 6:14 PM, Panther10 said:

Off the rack furs when it’s comes to men’s coats aren’t that great looking. For a real high quality garment you have to get something custom made. And don’t fool yourself into thinking that a women’s coat is the answer because the fit won’t be correct on your frame. The shoulders, the sleeve length, the measurements across the underarms and back will all be more tapered and purposefully cut in ways that you don’t even realize and it’s because they are meant to fit a woman’s body and not a man’s. And if you wear a women’s fur and you accidentally cause any of the seams to stretch or pull in some of those more delicate areas, rips and tears can form all over the place. If you really want to buy a fur that’s worth your investment, talk to your furrier about buying a custom made garment. It will be tailored to exactly your needs and you won’t run into any issues in the long run 

Thanks for the advice. You’re right.

It’s just that in the beginning you have to more or less guess what will look good on you before ordering your custom fit. It’s not easy to say the least.

[Deezy]

When I was 17 I got my licence and my fur fetish world opened up BIG TIME !! This was back in 1987 . No Internet all I had was a WANT ADD .And every Wednesday it would come out and in black and white there would be on page 53 usually a section called FURS .There would be maybe five posts and they were usually one or two blue fox coats that's my go to fur .and they were usually two hours away from home .but one day I saw the MACY'S HOLIDAY CATALOG .A and it had furs in there . So I went to the mall and went to the fur section .it was WAY IN THE FAR CORNER of the store . And my seventeen year old long hair METALLICA CONCERT SHIRT wearing ass was pacing back and forth not knowing what to do .the two milfs that were working there were eyeballing me so I chickened out . But I went home and put on my church suit and tie slicked my hair back and went back .walked in like I owened the joint . Hello lady's I said I'm interested in a blue fox stroller . They must have recognized me because they were so eager to please they had me sit down and were modeling the coats jackets strollers . Then one asked who the lucky lady was I was getting this expensive fur for . I said my mom.tjey went crazy oh that is so thoughtful !! What a nice young man you are the best son ever .TOTALY HAMING IT UP!! So embarrassed as hell hard as a rock I stand up boner sticking straight out and said ok that will do I will be back on mother's day to purchase one and made my way out they were both staring at my crotch red as can be . I went out and got in my car flew home got my moms rabbit jacket out of the hall and rubbed one of the sleeves of it that was the first of many times

[minkme]

On 5/21/2025 at 9:14 AM, Panther10 said:

Off the rack furs when it’s comes to men’s coats aren’t that great looking. For a real high quality garment you have to get something custom made. And don’t fool yourself into thinking that a women’s coat is the answer because the fit won’t be correct on your frame. The shoulders, the sleeve length, the measurements across the underarms and back will all be more tapered and purposefully cut in ways that you don’t even realize and it’s because they are meant to fit a woman’s body and not a man’s. And if you wear a women’s fur and you accidentally cause any of the seams to stretch or pull in some of those more delicate areas, rips and tears can form all over the place. If you really want to buy a fur that’s worth your investment, talk to your furrier about buying a custom made garment. It will be tailored to exactly your needs and you won’t run into any issues in the long run 

Hi Panther10,

 

I never thought about Women's coats being cut differently than Men's causing stress area when worn by men. 

[Deezy]

6 hours ago, minkme said:

Hi Panther10,

 

I never thought about Women's coats being cut differently than Men's causing stress area when worn by men. 

 

[FurSwede]

9 hours ago, minkme said:

Hi Panther10,

 

I never thought about Women's coats being cut differently than Men's causing stress area when worn by men. 

That very much depends on the cut/model of the coat/jacket but also, don't forget, the build of the person. Not all men have the same bodyshape. Yes, a bespoke fur coat will always be better, but certainly also more expensive. One can compare with suits and suit jackets. Those are made to fit an average body type and thus will fit some men better than others. A bespoke suit will be a perfect fit but will cost a lot more.

Edited May 23 by FurSwede

[Efferus33]

20 hours ago, FurSwede said:

That very much depends on the cut/model of the coat/jacket but also, don't forget, the build of the person. Not all men have the same bodyshape. Yes, a bespoke fur coat will always be better, but certainly also more expensive. One can compare with suits and suit jackets. Those are made to fit an average body type and thus will fit some men better than others. A bespoke suit will be a perfect fit but will cost a lot more.

Are custom made coats always more expensive ? Because every fur coat has to be hand made, so I’m not sure if it’ll be that much more work to make a custom fit.
It’s still worth trying a few shops. I’ve received very different offers in terms of prices. The further from the center the better!
I never know what to think if they ask for your budget and/or say it’s hard for them to estimate how much a coat will cost. I hardly believe that a furrier with years of experience wouldn’t manage calculating the number of pelts needed just by seeing your size and the length of the coat you want.

[FurSwede]

7 hours ago, Efferus33 said:

Are custom made coats always more expensive ? Because every fur coat has to be hand made, so I’m not sure if it’ll be that much more work to make a custom fit.
It’s still worth trying a few shops. I’ve received very different offers in terms of prices. The further from the center the better!
I never know what to think if they ask for your budget and/or say it’s hard for them to estimate how much a coat will cost. I hardly believe that a furrier with years of experience wouldn’t manage calculating the number of pelts needed just by seeing your size and the length of the coat you want.

Not always but you are not going to be able to get a discount on something custom made. The markup is usually 3x the cost to make the coat and just like any other business a fur store will want to move inventory. Also come end of the season they will want to sell what they have. There are many reasons one can get a good discount off the rack.

Of course an experienced furrier should be able to give an estimate. But remember they may not have the exakt prices for pelts. 

[Panther10]

Yeah it’s never a hard and fast rule that a custom coat will always be more expensive than an off the rack fur. It’s all about the skin quality and how much you are willing to pay for the grade of the product you are willing to buy, and how big the model will be if you are a big and tall client. Because furs that are 3XL or larger will require more skins to be produced into the garment of your choice.

Also if furriers buy pelts in bulk for special orders they can usually sell those off at a discount in lots, making custom furs more affordable. And it’s always better to do this when these skins are in stock vs when they have to be ordered for just a single job. Because if they don’t have the skins on hand, it’s not cost effective for the store or the client. Buying in bulk saves money for everyone in the long run so it’s best to place a special order when items are in stock. I usually have my furrier put my on a waitlist for this very reason so that way I’m always informed when new fox pelts come in for bulk orders.
 

Case in point when I had my custom full length silver fox coat constructed about 6 years ago, I had selected Norwegian male skins that were of relatively premium quality. Nothing to the point of being fresh from the tanner and ready for production. But they were at least one season old and in exquisite shape. And the coat only cost me about $5,300 despite being roughly a 5x+ since I wear a 3XL in clothing and I prefer my furs to be very roomy on the inside. And it was extra long at around 62” since I’m 6 ft 2” and I was looking for a maxi length piece. But I was able to save money thanks to those bulk order discounts I mentioned earlier so despite the irregular size of this fur, a great deal of money was saved at the register. 

Meanwhile this same furrier offered to show me a medium sized silver fox jacket that had a $8000 price tag on it, and that was solely because the skin quality exceeded my full length fur all thanks to the fact that the pelts were from a brand new order that didn’t come from the same batch of bulk order skins.  Had that same jacket been made with the same dimensions as my full length silver fox, it could have easily pushed the price up to $19,000 or more. Maybe even as high as $30,000

[Efferus33]

Thanks for the advice, very interesting. It’s impressive how greatly the price can vary depending on where and how you buy your furs. For example I’ve read from a guy that went all the way to Kastoria in Greece and the prices were at least cut in half, even for zibelin!
 

I didn’t know high quality fox could be so expensive. I thought 30’000 $ would only be seen with chinchillas and zibelin.

[FurSwede]

1 hour ago, Efferus33 said:

Thanks for the advice, very interesting. It’s impressive how greatly the price can vary depending on where and how you buy your furs. For example I’ve read from a guy that went all the way to Kastoria in Greece and the prices were at least cut in half, even for zibelin!
 

I didn’t know high quality fox could be so expensive. I thought 30’000 $ would only be seen with chinchillas and zibelin.

$30000 is rather inexpensive if you compare with the highest quality sable. The full length fully let out barguzin sable I was lucky to try on was priced at $150000. My short chinchilla jacket was about $15000. Imagine how much it would be full length.

Edited May 26 by FurSwede

[kev86]

I understand your explanation but personally never I pay 15000$ for a fur coat, I find it so unreasonable, my limit is until 1300$ for a coat...

Honestly if I pay 15000$, I prefer investing in a wonderful fur blanket with two or four pillows, personally I think it more reasonable and I use it more often !!!

I respect your ideas, we are different in the philosophy of seeing things, even if I am a big fan of fur and exotic skin !!!

 

[FurSwede]

6 minutes ago, kev86 said:

I understand your explanation but personally never I pay 15000$ for a fur coat, I find it so unreasonable, my limit is until 1300$ for a coat...

Honestly if I pay 15000$, I prefer investing in a wonderful fur blanket with two or four pillows, personally I think it more reasonable and I use it more often !!!

I respect your ideas, we are different in the philosophy of seeing things, even if I am a big fan of fur and exotic skin !!!

 

That is of course up to each and one, to decide what to spend. But you will never get the best quality fur, bespoke for that amount. Personally I don’t do second hand.

[furs limited]

I agree. If you're going to spend big bucks, buy an exquisite large blanket that one can enjoy every day and every night [temperatures allowing].

[Efferus33]

9 hours ago, FurSwede said:

$30000 is rather inexpensive if you compare with the highest quality sable. The full length fully let out barguzin sable I was lucky to try on was priced at $150000. My short chinchilla jacket was about $15000. Imagine how much it would be full length.

I once saw a guy wearing a hooded full length chinchilla. It was incredible! I can’t imagine the price he put into that coat.

I mean, at least with furs once it’s bought you don’t have extra cost, unlike with cars (except the fridge and yearly cleaning).

[kev86]

Honestly, the Russian philosophy regarding fur is profoundly stupid... Personally, when you maintain a second-hand fur, its prestige is preserved...
A furrier like Dilart doesn't only offer second-hand fur, for example!!!
A sheared mink coat for 1,200 euros is of excellent quality...
I have other priorities than spending huge sums on fur coats.

I also work within my budget, and maybe I make some money, but we're not the same age; I share other passions that are more financially demanding.

I prefer to find rare pieces rather than have the same fox coat as my neighbor.
Quality has nothing to do with buying new or second-hand; you have to try it to understand that...

Cordially

[FurSwede]

18 hours ago, kev86 said:

 

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Honestly, the Russian philosophy regarding fur is profoundly stupid...

You are of course free to feel that, but don't claim that other people adhere to some "philosophy" just because

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Personally, when you maintain a second-hand fur, its prestige is preserved...

You should not conflate quality and prestige.

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A furrier like Dilart doesn't only offer second-hand fur, for example!!!
A sheared mink coat for 1,200 euros is of excellent quality...

It may be good quality but there is a reason fur pelts are graded. Some just are way better quality than other. And that comes with a price.

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I prefer to find rare pieces rather than have the same fox coat as my neighbor.
Quality has nothing to do with buying new or second-hand; you have to try it to understand that...

I doubt you will find anyone with the same chinchilla as mine. Rare has nothing to do with second hand or not.

Of course there are high quality second hand pieces. But then, those are not inexpensive. Why, because the pelts were of the highest quality at one time. 

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I have other priorities than spending huge sums on fur coats.

I also work within my budget, and maybe I make some money, but we're not the same age; I share other passions that are more financially demanding.

Most people have other priorities, hobbies, etc etc. Of course one should work within a comfortable budget. That does not take away the fact that the highest quality pelts are more expensive.

[minkme]

21 hours ago, kev86 said:

Honestly, the Russian philosophy regarding fur is profoundly stupid... Personally, when you maintain a second-hand fur, its prestige is preserved...
A furrier like Dilart doesn't only offer second-hand fur, for example!!!
A sheared mink coat for 1,200 euros is of excellent quality...
I have other priorities than spending huge sums on fur coats.

I also work within my budget, and maybe I make some money, but we're not the same age; I share other passions that are more financially demanding.

I prefer to find rare pieces rather than have the same fox coat as my neighbor.
Quality has nothing to do with buying new or second-hand; you have to try it to understand that...

Cordially

What’s the deal with Russia and furs?

[Deezy]

On 5/23/2025 at 5:38 AM, Deezy said:

 

I don't get furs to wear them furs for woman are made differently ye the shoulders rlusualy are made with the neck fur of the animal making them full and fluffy that is my favorite part so smooth my cock reacts immediately when it enters that fur